Comments on The Deception of George Jones

By: Jeff Licquia

2005-10-10T17:28:10Z

This back-and-forth is really pissing me off.

I was not the one who was rude first. I was not the one who lied to slander someone. If someone comes in and spray-paints over your walls, they have no grounds to call “disrespect” when you yell at them.

At some point, it makes sense to stop the spray-painting. I’ve reached that point. Comments are closed on this post.

By: callsemhowiseesem

2005-10-10T16:16:11Z

Fair to say Jeff, if you expect respect, show the same in return. There wasn’t any disrespect in Q’s post. Not this one either. You seem to have an unconventional view of what respect is. A cheap shot is a cheap shot, Dude!

By: Jeff Licquia

2005-10-10T15:59:45Z

That being said, I see what you mean about the deception of Jones. What he did wasnâ€™t right.

It’s nice that you’re finally getting around to discussing the point, even if you can’t keep your Blake-obsession from kicking in.

You say you don’t like politicians who feed you a load of crap. Well, I’ve got one sentence now where you lament a deliberate lie designed to slander someone, and pages and pages of invective against someone for merely complaining too loudly for your taste, if I read you correctly. So forgive me if I’m less than impressed with the nobility of your cause.

And, as I’ve stated many times before, it’s my blog. You comment here at my pleasure. As I’ve demonstrated before, if you aren’t polite and don’t treat people (especially me) with respect, you get the treatment you deserve. If you don’t like it, don’t come here. Go get your own blog, where you can call the shots, and be as rude and obsessive as you want (short of the stalking laws).

By: Quantumleap

2005-10-10T14:46:00Z

I must agree with icallsem. This discussion has gone from the ridiculous to the sublime.
Jeff, your views on what’s right or wrong with others are yours, and yours alone. I respect that. Don’t expect everyone to agree with you though, and definitely, don’t just arbitrarily shove your views down the throats of others by holding sway over what goes into your blog. That’s just egostrokin’, and power trippin’, for lack of a better description.
That being said, I see what you mean about the deception of Jones. What he did wasn’t right.
But if you really dig into some of the stunts your heroine Blake has been part of, I think you’ll agree she’s not above doing the same. I did dig, and I think she’s equally culpable, if not more so.
Next time you two connect, ask her how many usernames she’s used all those years she’s held Toyota’s neck in a noose. (CBlake2, Autoresearcher, ProOwner, Whozitz,…………….the list is lengthy, if not quite creative. Is that not deception?
Ask how many car forums she’s been terminated from for flagrant abuses of their rules. Soliciting class action, repetitive posts to the point of blocking others, locking up the entire site…….again lengthy and creative tactics.
Also ask why she posted literally thousands of times in every large, small,and remote site available where even mention of the word Toyota occurred. The site owners often called it Spam–does that definition vary with the individual?
I even found a series of posts by Blake in Amazon.com where she took issue with their rating of some lowly Academic who had the audacity to write about the method of production Toyota uses in its operations–she called the guy down and urged folks to boycott the guy’s book, among other things!! Some might suggest that’s a little wierd.
Frankly, I could care less about Toyota or any other Automaker for that matter. I drive what I like. I don’t favor one over the other.
What I do care-a lot- about is people like Blake–Politicians, Celebrities, Media Sensationalists, and the like, who claim innocence while feeding the world a line of self serving crap. Doing the wrong things–even if they’re for the right reasons, is still wrong.
Is misleading another form of lie? Is deception the same? What about overwhelming literally hundreds of websites with repetitive messages? (No wonder the media came knocking!!–Interesting, they left just as quickly as they came!!)
I make no bones about feeling the way I do. If you or Blake take exception to what I write, so be it. I respect your feelings but I don’t agree with them. I base my opinion on what I read by Blake in a huge number of sites around the web. It certainly appears there are a great many others who also feel as I do.
You ask for links—if you were as astute as you suggest you are, links aren’t necessary. It’s all there at your fingertips.
Final comment: Icallsem may be the wisest of all.

By: callsemhowiseesem

2005-10-10T11:04:26Z

Hey, you know what? I’m an idiot. Yeah, I see it now. It does really suck to have cyberstalkers, and to be slandered like in that other post.

Sorry, Charlene, I had you pegged all wrong. That was a good thing you did, helping people with their oil sludge problems.

Anyone want a used Toyota, real cheap?

Jeff: I wonder if “callsemhowiseesem” will get the point of this post now.

By: Jeff Licquia

2005-10-09T20:46:21Z

Uh, dude, this is my blog. The “point” is whatever I decide it to be. And you missed it.

By: callsemhowiseesem

2005-10-09T17:28:52Z

Really Jeff: “Why even bother with this silliness?”
On the contrary friend, you missed the point entirely!!

By: callsemhowiseesem

2005-10-09T17:28:35Z

Really Jeff: “Why even bother with this silliness?”
On the contrary, you missed the point entirely friend!!

By: Jeff Licquia

2005-10-09T16:03:00Z

Why even bother with this silliness.

Read the original post again. You must have missed something.

By: callsemhowiseesem

2005-10-06T12:52:02Z

Charlene Blake may or may not be what her detractors suggest.
I don’t know much about her situation or what she is accused of
To me her comments about it sound like what we hear every day from politicians. Not quite lies, but not quite truth either. Somewhere in between perhaps.
I still agree this discussion is a waste of time. Jeff, your Blog is a good one. Why even bother with this silliness.